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If you were to create your own Detective...........?

MarcWatson-GrayMarcWatson-Gray Dundee City, United Kingdom ✭✭✭
I don't know if this has been discussed previously'but,if you were creating a Detective of your own for a book around at the same time  as Agatha  created Hercule or Miss Marple.
What sort of Detective would you create that would( hopefully) capture the reader's imagination such a H.P. and M.M. have ?

Man/Woman ?
Old/Young ?
Nationality ?
Social Status (Important at the time )

I would have a young female Lady's maid.
She would know her position'but have a real spark about her and a good sense of herself.
Being a Lady's maid'she would travel (Abroad in Winter/Scotland for the shooting season/London or country estate through the rest of the year )
This would give her plenty of new locations to investigate crimes.
She would glean tidbits of knowledge and clues from overhearing the Upstairs Chatter over afternoon tea or a dinner party. 
And learn scandal and insinuation from her colleagues downstairs (or below stairs)that would help her investigations.
Her Lady would never part with her as she has come to rely upon her discretion and efficiency.
Being a Lady's maid and not in a position to confront a high standing suspect, she would need to turn her evidence over to the relevant investigating Police Inspector'who would either accept this grudgingly or come to see her as an equal in an unfair society.

Who would you create and why ?


  • Tommy_A_JonesTommy_A_Jones Gloucestershire, United Kingdom ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would have a variety of combinations like Agatha Christie did and Simon Brett has now, I often Create sleuths and am trying to write something to see if I can, the only Combination Agatha Christie didn't have is 2 Women who regularly solved Crimes together, probably because of the times she was living and writing in, she had Miss Marple assisted by Bunch, Lucy Eyelesbarrrow and Dolly Bantry but not in many of her Miss Marple Books, Dolly Bantry was the lady who assisted her most., I think it would be interesting to have duos of Sleuths that have different strengths and experiences who will no doubt see different sets of people which will make them see things differently which will make them more successful at solving the Crimes. 
  • I would make my detective a governess - that is, a private teacher in upper-class homes. However, unlike Patricia Wentworth's Miss Silver, I would have her still working as a governess, and solving mysteries as an additional ocupation. The reason I would chose a governess is because at the time, the governess' position was kind of in between - higher than the servants, not quite one of the family, but getting to know things from both sides. 
  • MarcWatson-GrayMarcWatson-Gray Dundee City, United Kingdom ✭✭✭
    Yes.That would be quite a good one.Both of our characters have a hint of Lucy Eylesbarrow (4.50 From Paddington) about them...Not quite above stairs but not seen as below stairs either......
  • GriseldaGriselda ✭✭✭✭
    A really good idea about the new detective, and the maid! but the maid-sleuth invention has reminded me of the TV version of At Bertram's Hotel, which had a totally spurious maid investigating a painter who wasn't in the book either. A new story based on a maid would be excellent.
  • MarcWatson-GrayMarcWatson-Gray Dundee City, United Kingdom ✭✭✭
    Yes.That occurred to me also.So many creations nowadays are given exaggerated personalities with quirky sides to their characters that i wanted to  have a detective that was an ordinary working person with good intelligence and happened to be in the right (or wrong)place at the right (wrong time)
    I also had an idea about a guy in 2015 who was introverted and shy,who didn't socialise well,but lived through Agatha Christie stories particularly Hercule Poirot.He read and re:read Hercule's adventuress,watched them on T.V. and collected every piece of memorabilia he could find.Then one day when walking past a building site,he is hit on the head with a piece of building material and wakes up in Hospital convinced that he is Hercule Poirot.He cannot relate to what is going on around him and thinks it is a criminal plot against him.There would be some comic moments when he interacts with people and technology of the time.and some scary moments when his is confronted with Agatha's printed booksand evidence of the fictional character etc.He cannot make sence of everything,but as Hercule he,rises to the challenge....Don't know how it would end though.....Just a bit of fun !!
  • Tommy_A_JonesTommy_A_Jones Gloucestershire, United Kingdom ✭✭✭✭✭
    He could walk past the same building site and get hit ny something again which would make him normal again.
  • MarcWatson-GrayMarcWatson-Gray Dundee City, United Kingdom ✭✭✭
    Very good......Maybe deliberately when all other treatments fail !!! 
  • GriseldaGriselda ✭✭✭✭
    To be a bit of a kill joy, we would have a difficulty if we were to make a detective real and relevant by using our understanding of contemporary life by setting the mystery in the present day. I don't think that the Miss Marples of today would ever be given access to top secret information about active police cases. It is not only Miss Marple who is invited to sit in on interviews, similar dispensations are accorded to Jerry, in the Moving Finger, and the hero of The Crooked House. For the former, of course, being the right sort was enough; for the latter, as we will remember, having a father who headed up Scotland Yard made all the difference.

    Perhaps people like ourselves could get an invite to help the crime desk. Just imagine, a detective is reading a forum about crimes in literature. He admires some of the insights. Perhaps on the Topics not related to Agatha Christie page a poster mentions a modern crime. "What insight", thinks the Chief. "I would like to confidentially ask for their help. I will extend an invitation to Claridges, and  ask if they would like to assist the police." Perhaps civilians are asked to assist, but the public never get to hear of it - well, we only hear about people with psychic powers helping. This might make the basis of a story, but I suspect it is not coincidence that most of today's super sleuths from television and books, Wexford, Columbo, Morse, Lewis, are all actual coppers, or sometimes private detectives, and not gentleman sleuths, or Catholic priests.

    Having a sleuth who was a private detective would be interesting. A journalist would also be a good possibility: they gain access to lesser witnesses through their work - but usually retrospectively, of course, years after the case has gone cold.
  • Tommy_A_JonesTommy_A_Jones Gloucestershire, United Kingdom ✭✭✭✭✭

    If You were right Grizelda Rebecca Tope's Florist Perssimon Brown or House Sitter Thea Osbourne would not exist or Simon Brett's Actor Charles Parrish or Pensioner Miss Pargetter, or Betty Rowland's Crime Writer Mel Craig or Ann Granger's Foreign Office Employee Meredith Mitchell although I admit her side-kick is The Detective Alan Markby. (You can tell what I read as well as Detectives who ARE in the Police Force).

    I think The Genre has become boring because the Amateur sleuth is unfortunately becoming a thing of the past which I for one think is a great shame.

  • GriseldaGriselda ✭✭✭✭
    Yes, it is a shame that most television detection revolves around professional sleuth and the police.
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